Thanks for that. It's a bit hard, because the capital I Incels are often really genuinely bad - like they've responded to the stimulus in an unimaginably bad way. I want to be better at separating out the stimulus and the reaction, though.
I had a friend for a while, call him Dave. Dave was very overweight and kind of socially unskilled; …
Thanks for that. It's a bit hard, because the capital I Incels are often really genuinely bad - like they've responded to the stimulus in an unimaginably bad way. I want to be better at separating out the stimulus and the reaction, though.
I had a friend for a while, call him Dave. Dave was very overweight and kind of socially unskilled; he was a nice guy, I liked him, he was insanely smart and good at a specific thing that would go on to make him a lot of money. But realistically Dave wasn't in a place where he would be able to muster what it took to even try to find someone, much less actually find someone. Call it unhealthy risk aversion, if you want to call it anything.
Anyway, Dave went another direction with it - his reaction to something like incel-creating stimulus (loneliness and lack of self worth, here) was to actually go hyper Woke; he was the wokiest. Super online, Twitter 24/7 mega Woke. I'm not particularly like that, which I think most people can tell; I'm revulsed by the more performative parts of it, which Dave was definitely doing.
I'm trying to revisit things like Dave in my mind and sort of go, hey, I get it, you have this massive hole you are trying to fill with other things. And I don't necessarily have to like things like what you are doing to want to have some sympathy for the kind of things that tend to make people flail around trying to find solutions to the way they hurt.
Yeah, the "woke" memeplex is actually quite isomorphic to the incel one. Universalizing narrative, identity essentialism, and (probably the most load-bearing meme) an enemy. Hell even "woke" and "redpilled" are basically saying the same thing if you strip the ideological identifiers- unintuitive explanations of existing social structures in (race/gender) relations which expose the (white surpremacy/slutty hypergamous gold-digging) that normies don't understand. Admittedly the woke memeplex is orders of magnitude more advanced, but there's no academics producing works in "critical slut studies".
Thanks for that. It's a bit hard, because the capital I Incels are often really genuinely bad - like they've responded to the stimulus in an unimaginably bad way. I want to be better at separating out the stimulus and the reaction, though.
I had a friend for a while, call him Dave. Dave was very overweight and kind of socially unskilled; he was a nice guy, I liked him, he was insanely smart and good at a specific thing that would go on to make him a lot of money. But realistically Dave wasn't in a place where he would be able to muster what it took to even try to find someone, much less actually find someone. Call it unhealthy risk aversion, if you want to call it anything.
Anyway, Dave went another direction with it - his reaction to something like incel-creating stimulus (loneliness and lack of self worth, here) was to actually go hyper Woke; he was the wokiest. Super online, Twitter 24/7 mega Woke. I'm not particularly like that, which I think most people can tell; I'm revulsed by the more performative parts of it, which Dave was definitely doing.
I'm trying to revisit things like Dave in my mind and sort of go, hey, I get it, you have this massive hole you are trying to fill with other things. And I don't necessarily have to like things like what you are doing to want to have some sympathy for the kind of things that tend to make people flail around trying to find solutions to the way they hurt.
Yeah, the "woke" memeplex is actually quite isomorphic to the incel one. Universalizing narrative, identity essentialism, and (probably the most load-bearing meme) an enemy. Hell even "woke" and "redpilled" are basically saying the same thing if you strip the ideological identifiers- unintuitive explanations of existing social structures in (race/gender) relations which expose the (white surpremacy/slutty hypergamous gold-digging) that normies don't understand. Admittedly the woke memeplex is orders of magnitude more advanced, but there's no academics producing works in "critical slut studies".