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DinoNerd's avatar

I really hoped this was going to be about holding one's own side to account. That's something I can agree on with anyone, whatever side they come from, and no matter who did what to whom.

Instead, it's about feeling uncomfortable when someone not on your side calls your side to account, and you aren't sure whether they are lying, and if so, how much. You also present that as a uniquely right wing problem, and from my viewpoint far to the left of you, I can assure you that lies are told about everyone and anyone. And while the media *may* do a better job of fact checking if the target is on the left, it's sure not going to be a perfect job.

At any rate, you have my sympathy. I'm heartily sick of sifting through lies, and wondering whether the latest "someone on your side did something bad" soundbite has any truth to it.

Also, for the record, if you are a habitual liar, you are not on my side, whatever policies you may claim to favor, or actually work in support of - for precisely the same reason that someone who favors political assassination is not on my side - the harm they do to society as a whole is almost certainly worse than any benefit to whatever side they favor, except in circumstances more extreme than we have in the US.

And I'd love to see you address the problem of holding wrong-doing political allies to account.

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>This story popped onto my radar because one of my Discord room’s inhabitants brought it up: Isn’t this a clear sign that DeSantis is bad, and should be dumped? And I end up in a weird place, because yeah, it probably does. The most likely version of this story is that DeSantis did a shitty thing to some poor people; I will not be shocked if that ends up being the pretty confirmed version of this story.

If doing "shitty things" disqualifies somebody as presidential material then nobody is suited to become president. DeSantis' shitty thing is a hell of a lot less shitty than nearly all alternatives, so dumping him would be a massive mistake.

A few poor people who are in the country uninvited getting screwed around a bit is much less of an issue than facilitating mass illegal immigration in the first place.

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